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    INTERVIEW-Salafi sees Egypt army taking time to cede power

    * Salafi says army hand over to civilians will take time

    * Says Egypt needs consensus president

    * Nour Party took part in workshops with U.S. NGO

    CAIRO, Feb 8 (Reuters) - The head of Egypt's leading

    ultra-conservative Islamist party believes it will take time for

    the ruling military to hand power to civilians but says the army

    cannot enjoy a privileged status "above the constitution".

    In an interview with Reuters, Emad Abdel Ghaffour said the

    next president should enjoy broad support to steer Egypt through

    the turbulent transition it has witnessed since President Hosni

    Mubarak was toppled in a popular uprising last year.

    He also praised the work of a U.S.-based democracy group

    being investigated by the authorities, saying it had enriched

    political life.

    For a representative of a movement that has defined itself

    by opposition to all things Western, his remarks on the role of

    U.S.-backed NGOs under threat were remarkably positive.

    Abdel Ghaffour's Nour Party won more than a fifth of the

    seats in the newly-elected parliament, taking many by surprise

    and making it the biggest of the ultraconservative Salafi groups

    to have emerged in the year since Mubarak was swept from office.

    The military council which assumed power from Mubarak has

    pledged to hand power to an elected president by mid-year.

    "What we say is they must hand over (power) now, but let us

    be realistic, this will take time," Abdel Ghaffour said during

    an interview this week at his office in the Cairo suburb of

    Maadi on the east bank of the river Nile.

    "This is the truth that separates our vision from the

    youth," he said, referring to protest groups that are demanding

    the military's immediate departure from power.

    The Salafis are ultra-orthodox even among fundamentalists,

    employing the beliefs and practices of the earliest period of

    Islam as a shield against what they see as Western pollution and

    modernist deviation.

    The Salafi ideology is akin to the Wahhabi strain of

    puritanical Islam espoused in Saudi Arabia and which has

    inspired the militancy of al Qaeda and others. Many of their

    critics say the Salafis are financed with Gulf Arab money, a

    charge Abdel Ghaffour dismissed.

    The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces has said it will

    hand power to an elected president at the end of June, though

    activists demanding fast democratic reform worry the generals

    will try to exercise control from behind the scenes.

    Abdel Ghaffour said an assembly due to write Egypt's new

    constitution would insist on "the army being an important and

    great institution".

    "But it must be subject to the rule of the nation and the

    law and the constitution," he said.

    Since army officers overthrew the monarch in 1952, all of

    Egypt's presidents have hailed from the military, something

    reformists say has helped the institution to develop extensive

    political and economic influence.

    The Islamists have angered other reformists for appearing

    too supportive of the army-led government during a year that

    rights groups say has seen civilians sent to military trials at

    rates not even witnessed in Mubarak's days.

    The Nour Party had criticised the military council "in many

    matters", Abdel Ghaffour said. But he praised the army for

    overseeing Egypt's most democratic elections in six decades.

    ENRICHING POLITICAL LIFE

    He said the Nour Party attended training organised by the

    National Democratic Institute - one of the U.S.-based democracy

    groups whose workers are accused of breaking the law by

    operating without proper licences and receiving foreign funds

    illegally.

    The case has strained ties between the United States and

    Egypt, endangering the annual $1.3 billion in military aid Cairo

    receives from Washington.

    "The things that we took part in were things that I do not

    think broke the law, for example, measuring public opinion ...

    and monitoring party manifestos," Abdel Ghaffour said. "There's

    no doubt it was a type of enrichment of political life."

    Asked about what might be motivating the case, he said: "It

    seems it is mixed: procedural and political."

    The Nour Party came second only to the Muslim Brotherhood,

    the long-established Islamist group that emerged with more than

    43 percent of the seats in parliament. Though both Islamist

    groups, the parties have appeared more rivals than allies.

    Abdel Ghaffour, who has the long beard that marks out

    Salafis, said the Brotherhood had steered clear of the Nour

    Party in an attempt to project a moderate image.

    Like the Brotherhood, the Nour Party has so far decided not

    to field a candidate for the presidential election. Abdel

    Ghaffour attributed that decision to a desire to ease the fears

    of other Egyptians alarmed by the Islamists' election success.

    EGYPT NEEDS A CHARLES DE GAULLE

    The new head of state must be able to "lead an Egypt in

    which there is consensus among the political blocs", he said.

    But the candidate must not be opposed to Islamic sharia law "in

    political life", he added.

    Abdel Ghaffour said he saw nothing wrong with the

    widely-accepted constitutional clause describing the principles

    of sharia as the main source for legislation, as long as it was

    better applied. More hardline Salafis want the clause changed to

    demand tight adherence to the letter of Islamic law.

    Abdel Ghaffour said his party would not force conservative

    changes on Egypt, such as segregating girls and boys at school

    or in the work place. "I do not support obliging the people to

    (adhere to) a specific system," he said.

    "This is a matter that can be left to the people."

    Addressing the tourist industry that employs one in eight

    Egyptians, he said talk that the party wanted to segregate

    beaches, for example, aimed to "distort" its reputation.

    He criticised what he described as the Mubarak regime's

    failure to develop the tourism industry. "If we compare the

    pyramids with the Eiffel Tower in France, we find a great

    difference between the services provided," he said.

    He also saw France as a model in another way, naming Charles

    de Gaulle as a foreign leader he admired.

    "In Egypt, we need someone like this ... who can gather the

    nation around a strong national feeling that can get Egypt out

    of the crisis it is in," he said.

    (Additional reporting by Marwa Awad and Edmund Blair; Writing

    by Tom Perry)

     

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